Marija Sunjka’s Stand for Accountability: Where Anti-Corruption Fuels Human Rights
Interviewed by Ana Sunjka
Ana: Thank you so much for taking the time to sit down with us, knowing how busy your schedule is. Could you start off by telling our N/A readers a little about yourself?
Marija: I’m Marija, currently a Master’s student at Columbia University and a part-time consultant at the World Bank for the Stolen Asset Recovery (STAR) initiative. This initiative is a partnership between the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) and the World Bank. I’m 24 years old, living in New York City, and originally from Serbia. I moved to the U.S. at the age of 18 to attend the University of Virginia (UVA) for my undergraduate studies, where I double-majored in Foreign Affairs and French. After graduating, I moved to Washington, D.C. to work at the World Bank for a year. Eventually, I moved to NYC, and here I am now, studying Human Rights and Anti-Corruption at Columbia and part time working with the World Bank. That’s my journey so far.
Ana: How has this path shaped your views on global issues, especially regarding anti-corruption?
Marija: It’s been a very systematic path. At UVA, I gained critical thinking skills within the realm of international relations. Through a couple of internships, I became interested in anti-corruption issues. Moving on to the World Bank helped me understand the global scale and complexity of anti-corruption work. Some people think this work is too broad and not directly impactful, but my experience at the World Bank taught me otherwise. Now, studying Human Rights at Columbia, I’m seeing the theoretical frameworks that intersect with anti-corruption. It all connects—the theory, the practice, and the global scope of these issues.
Ana: The STAR project you work on at the World Bank tackles anti-corruption. For readers who are unfamiliar, could you explain what the project focuses on and why it matters on a global scale?
Marija: STAR is a department that is a partnership between the World Bank and the UNODC. It stands for the Stolen Asset Recovery Initiative. It focuses heavily on anti-corruption and addressing financial crimes in various forms. One of my first projects, which was launched at the Conference of the States Parties in Atlanta in December 2023, is the Asset Recovery Watch Database. This database is the only one in the world that systematically tracks efforts by prosecution authorities worldwide to go after assets which came from corruption. The goal is to collect and systematize information about completed and ongoing recovery efforts of proceeds of corruption that have an international dimension. Having this comprehensive resource allows us to use the data as a powerful tool in shaping policies against corruption and helps NGOs, governments, and other stakeholders have a better insight into the scope of the problem of corruption better.
Ana: What do you wish more people understood about corruption and the barriers to addressing it effectively?
Marija: People often ask, “Why bother? Corruption is unavoidable.” I think the mentality we bring to the issue is crucial. Corruption affects human rights and our freedoms in everyday life—from how we pay taxes to how we select our leaders, from job opportunities to basic services. It creates systemic inequalities and distorts political and social institutions. It’s a global issue, an abuse of power at all levels, and it limits our human, social, and economic rights. If we just sit back and accept it, we allow it to spread like a virus. You cure it in one form, it appears in another. Especially in poorer countries, people sometimes engage in corruption out of desperation or because they see no moral incentive to remain honest. Understanding that corruption isn’t just a distant problem but something that affects everyone’s daily lives is the first step towards addressing it.
Ana: Working at the World Bank must give you a unique perspective on how international cooperation works behind the scenes. What’s something surprising or challenging about working in this environment that people wouldn’t expect, that you’re allowed to discuss, of course?
Marija: I would say that I was the youngest person on my team, so I had a lot to learn very quickly. Even though I had some experience, each domain is different. It is a fast-paced environment with high exposure to new issues, requiring rapid learning and problem-solving. I also had to learn how to collaborate with a global team effectively. These experiences shaped how I tackle challenges now. It was about trusting your team, relying on each other, and adapting quickly to meet tight deadlines.
Ana: So would you say you thrive in dynamic environments?
Marija: Definitely. It boosts my resilience and curiosity. I constantly want to learn more, to see what else I can do. Being exposed to unfamiliar and sometimes uncomfortable learning environments helps me grow and keeps me on my toes.
“When we overlook corruption, we let this virus infect not just our institutions, but our basic rights and freedoms.”
Ana: You’re currently studying at Columbia while also working part-time at the World Bank. How do you balance these two demanding roles, and what motivates you to keep pushing forward?
Marija: I guess that I’m able to implement new theoretical frameworks directly into my professional work, which sparks countless ideas for more efficient solutions to complex problems. I feel motivated because I can see the immediate application of what I learn academically. I’m excited about the future, knowing that once I graduate, I’ll have a more refined perspective and be able to approach real-world problems with greater creativity and efficiency.
Ana: Moving to New York City is a huge step for anyone. Doing it for both work and education is on another level. What has the transition been like, and what advice would you give to someone starting fresh in NYC?
Marija: The transition from D.C. to NYC was relatively smooth, but the city is huge, and there’s always something happening. You’ve got the UN, Columbia’s campus, politicians, prime ministers—it’s all here. Early on, I felt the pressure to seize every opportunity, but I quickly realized that’s impossible. You can’t be everywhere at once. Also, power dynamics and exclusivity can make certain opportunities feel out of reach. Understanding your position as someone just starting out, especially as an international student, helps you manage your expectations. Give yourself room to grow. Fear of missing out fades over time, so just embrace the journey and trust that you’ll find your place at your own pace.
Ana: Reflecting on your time at Columbia, what has been the most eye-opening experience for you academically or personally?
Marija: A standout experience was attending the UN session for International Day on Violence Against Women with my class. It was eye-opening to see how inefficient some states are. Many didn’t even show up to address women’s rights issues. It revealed why certain countries struggle more with gender-based violence. When states don’t engage, it shows the root of many problems. While organizations like the UN exist to foster global consensus, real change requires effort from the countries themselves. International law also plays a key role as it often delays or limits progress. The gap between what international organizations can do and what states are willing to commit to is profound. This experience affirmed how complicated and slow change can be.
Ana: That’s very sad and concerning. What keeps you hopeful and driven to make an impact?
Marija: I’m just starting out, but even the small contributions I’ve made feel significant when dealing with these massive global issues. Seeing even a fraction of change, knowing I’ve contributed in some way, keeps me going. These problems aren’t solved in a day, or even a year—they’re ongoing, evolving challenges. Policies, legal systems, and approaches must constantly adapt. That’s what drives me: staying on top of these changes and continuing to push for improvement, knowing that the work today might need to evolve tomorrow.
Ana: In your field, there’s often a fine line between idealism and realism. How do you maintain a balance, especially when dealing with complex global issues without a strong global consensus?
Marija: Idealism sets the ultimate goal, like ending poverty or minimizing corruption. Realism defines what’s achievable with the resources at hand. So you keep your idealistic vision as your motivator while using realism to understand what’s practical. How much can you actually accomplish? With something as broad as anti-corruption, success might come in incremental steps. Idealism drives you forward; realism helps you measure progress and stay grounded.
Ana: As a young woman, what obstacles have you faced, and how have you navigated them? What advice would you give to other young women aspiring to make a difference in fields like yours?
Marija: People have sometimes looked down on me because I’m a woman and an international student. I experienced this in academic settings, feeling pressure and, at times, shame that kept me quiet. But you’re there for a reason, regardless of your background. Your contributions matter. I’ve had great supervisors who reminded me of that. My advice: don’t let anyone silence you. Speak up, stand your ground, and remember that your voice and work are valuable.
Ana: From Serbia to UVA, the Dean’s List, GFI internships, navigating COVID, then on to Columbia and the World Bank—all at 24 years old—you’ve moved from strength to strength. How do you define success personally, and where do you hope to see yourself?
Marija: That’s a hard question. Success is something I revisit often, and the answer changes. I’ve been fortunate with my upbringing and worked very hard to get here. My goals were always focused on the near future, taking it one step at a time, and over time I found what I’m genuinely passionate about. For me, success is contributing—even in a small way—to making the world a better place. Coming from a small country and being able to contribute to global issues is something I find fulfilling. Working and studying at these amazing institutions and tackling issues I care about is an honor. I want to keep going, exploring, and making an impact. But I also want to pause occasionally, reflect on how far I’ve come, and enjoy this journey. It’s not just about more and more, it’s also about appreciating each step.
“If you’re the smartest person in the room, you’re in the wrong room”
Ana: What’s the most valuable lesson you’ve learned in your career so far, especially when working on such complex issues? Is there one piece of advice that really stuck with you?
Marija: Resilience is key. Constantly adapt, absorb everything you learn, and be willing to put yourself in uncomfortable situations. Even if you feel imposter syndrome, just go for it. The growth and confidence that come afterward are priceless. Another piece of advice I love is: “If you’re the smartest person in the room, you’re in the wrong room.” Keep challenging yourself.
Ana: Looking ahead, where do you see yourself making the most impact? How do you want to continue contributing to the world? Is there a specific issue you’re passionate about?
Marija: Human trafficking, 100%. It’s an issue I’d love to focus on more intensely down the road. It seems almost impossible to solve—it drives a huge part of the global economy. For instance, India alone was at a $32 billion estimate from sex trafficking as of 2014, and that number has likely risen. The lack of global cooperation, widespread corruption, differing national policies, and international law complexities all hinder progress. It’s heartbreaking, but I’m determined to tackle even a small part of this problem. Any positive change would be meaningful.
Ana: Finally, what would you tell your younger self, or someone just starting a journey similar to yours? Is there any advice you wish you knew?
Marija: It’s going to feel really hard and lonely at times. Remind yourself why you’re doing this. If your goal changes, adjust your path accordingly. Keep an open mind, and don’t be afraid of feeling like you don’t belong. It’s natural. Even if you’re homesick or unsure, remember the bigger picture. That kept me going—the idea that I would one day play a bigger role. So just keep going.
Ana: Would you say it’s worth it then?
Marija: I’d say yes. If you asked me back then, I might not have been as sure, but now I can confidently say it’s worth it. This is what I dreamed of. I took the positives from every experience, learned as much as I could, and despite the sacrifices, I’m here in NYC doing what I love, studying what I’m passionate about, and I’m genuinely content with my life. I’m excited for this next chapter.
Ana: Thank you, Marija, for sitting down with me today. I congratulate you on your achievements and look forward to following your journey.
Marija: Thank you for having me and for sharing my story!
All views expressed in this article are the author’s own, and may not reflect the opinions of N/A Magazine.
Posted Friday 20th December 2024.
Edited by Ana Sunjka